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The trust and identity happy hour show.

In this industry, we do some of our best relationship building and idea sharing when we gather for happy hour events and conference afterparties. We all know that’s where the real conversations are happening. Co-hosts Sage Avarda and Steve Craig are bottling up that energy and delivering it to you, no matter where you are, in this monthly series!


Each episode, Sage and Steve will sit down with a leader in the trust and identity space to enjoy a rarified spirit or wine while chatting through all things verification and authentication. Cheers!

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Latest Episode

Uncorking biometrics with Frances Zelazny

So a biometrics founder, a trust podcaster, and an identity-curious creative walk into a bar…


If you’ve read anything on biometric identity in the last twenty years, you know Frances Zelazny. In this pilot episode, she joins Steve and Sage in the studio for a glass of natural blouge wine from the wild Hood River region of Oregon.

Stems in hand, they toast to Frances’ recent Prove announcement, compare tasting notes on top biometric myths, and discuss the need to embrace a new gold standard of identity and move away from authentication methods of an earlier vintage.As a 5’ spitfire full of priceless perspectives and spicy forecasts, Frances proves that good things really do come in small (but mighty!) packages.

Attend the happy hour watch party of this series premiere on LinkedIn Live, featuring a real-time q&a and chat feed with Sage and Steve!

Meet the Cohosts

Sage Avarda

Sage Avarda (she/they) is a new media creative dedicated to elevating expert voices in the identity space from both behind and in front of the camera. Known as the "social butterfly of trust and fintech," Sage has interviewed (and fangirled) leaders of industry giants including Salesforce, FICO, Alloy, Brex, Venmo, FIS, Zelle, Stripe, and, of course, Prove.

Steve Craig

Steve Craig (he/him) is a digital identity strategist with a knack for making complex cross-industry trends legible to leaders and builders alike. Often sought for speaking engagements and panel moderation, Steve is well regarded for his unique perspectives and tenure-backed insights. He is founder of PEAK IDV and Head of Platform Strategy at Prove.